Disciple of Newness
Group: Registered Plus
Joined: Dec 2006
RE: New Covenant
Questions I had aboutÂ Â the New Covenant, with scriptural and Watchtower answers. I highlighted the words I thought most pertinent.
*What is the NC?
Â Â Lk.22:19 Also, he took a loaf, gave thanks, broke it, and gave it to them, saying: â€œThis means my body which is to be given in YOUR behalf. Keep doing this in remembrance of me.â€ 20 Also, the cup in the same way after they had the evening meal, he saying: â€œThis cup means the new covenant by virtue of my blood, which is to be poured out in YOUR behalf.
Â Â Heb. 9: 14 how much more will the blood of the Christ, who through an everlasting spirit offered himself without blemish to God, cleanse our consciences from dead works that we may render sacred service to [the] living God?
1Peter 3: . 18 Why, even Christ died once for all time concerning sins, a righteous [person] for unrighteous ones, that he might lead YOU to God, he being put to death in the flesh, but being made alive in the spirit.
19 In this [state] also he went his way and preached to the spirits in prison,
20 who had once been disobedient when the patience of God was waiting in Noahâ€™s days, while the ark was being constructed, in which a few people, that is, eight souls, were carried safely through the water.
21 That which corresponds to this is also now saving YOU, namely, baptism, (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the request made to God for a good conscience,) through the resurrection of Jesus ChristHeb. 9: 14 how much more will the blood of the Christ, who through an everlasting spirit offered himself without blemish to God, cleanse our consciences from dead works that we may render sacred service to [the] living God?
15 So that is why he is a mediator of a new covenant, in order that, because a death has occurred for [their] release by ransom from the transgressions under the former covenant, the ones who have been called might receive the promise of the everlasting inheritance.Â Â .
*What are the 3 main benefits of being in the NC?
1)Â Â 1 Peter 3:21, not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the request made to God for a good conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
2) Heb 9:14 that we may render sacred service to [the] living God?
3)Â Â Ro. 6: . 23 For the wages sin pays is death, but the gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord.
Math 25:33: 33 And he will put the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left.
34 â€œThen the king will say to those on his right, â€˜Come, YOU who have been blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for YOU from the founding of the world
*Who is the mediator of the NC, and the other parties?
Â Â Heb. 9:15 So that is why he is a mediator of a new covenant, in order that, because a death has occurred for [their] release by ransom from the transgressions under the former covenant, the ones who have been called might receive the promise of the everlasting inheritance. 1Tim. 2: 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all
Watchtower 1979 April 1 p.31- â€œ Is Jesus the â€œmediatorâ€ only for anointed Christians?â€¦ So in this strict Biblical sense Jesus is the â€œmediatorâ€ only for anointed Christians. â€¦The â€œgreat crowdâ€ of â€œother sheepâ€ that is forming today is not in that new covenant.
Jn. 5: 24 Most truly I say to YOU, He that hears my word and believes him that sent me has everlasting life, and he does not come into judgment but has passed over from death to life..â€
Ro. *: 14 For all who are led by Godâ€™s spirit, these are Godâ€™s sons.
Watchtower 1979 November 15 p.27 Benefiting from â€œOne Mediator Between God and Menâ€
â€œThey recognize that they are not spiritual Israelites in the new covenant mediated by Jesus Christ, nor part of the â€œchosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation.â€â€”1 Pet. 2:9.
WT â€™03 2/15, 19 Anointed Christians are certain of their heavenly hope, of their having been taken into the new covenant. Jesus mentioned it when he instituted the Memorial and said: â€œThis cup means the new covenant by virtue of my blood, which is to be poured out in your behalf.â€ (Luke 22:20) The parties to the new covenant are God and anointed ones. (Jeremiah 31:31-34; Hebrews 12:22-24) Jesus is the mediator. Made operative by Christâ€™s shed blood, the new covenant took out not only from the Jews but also from the nations a people for Jehovahâ€™s name and made them part of Abrahamâ€™s â€œseed.â€
Gla. 3: 26 YOU are all, in fact, sons of God through YOUR faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For all of YOU who were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor freeman, there is neither male nor female; for YOU are all one [person] in union with Christ Jesus. 29 Moreover, if YOU belong to Christ, YOU are really Abrahamâ€™s seed, heirs with reference to a promise.
*Who are theÂ Â beneficiaries of the NC, that are instructed by Jesus to keep it in memorial?
Acts 6: 53 Accordingly Jesus said to them: â€œMost truly I say to YOU, Unless YOU eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, YOU have no life in yourselves. 54 He that feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has everlasting life, and I shall resurrect him at the last day
WT â€™86 2/15, Thus, according to the context of John 6:53, having â€œlife in yourselvesâ€ would here mean entering at last into the very fullness of life. The â€œlittle flockâ€ of Kingdom heirs experience this at their resurrection into the heavens. The â€œother sheepâ€ experience it after the end of the thousand years, when they are tested and declared righteous for everlasting life in the Paradise earth.â€”1 John 3:2; Revelation 20:4, 5.
14 Others, too, can benefit from the â€œbread from heaven.â€ Jesus said of the one that â€˜eats his flesh and drinks his bloodâ€™ but who dies: â€œI shall resurrect him at the last day.â€ It is understood that anointed Christians sleeping in death are raised at the sounding of â€œthe last trumpet,â€ which takes place during the â€œmanifestationâ€ of Jesus Christ in Kingdom glory
Â Â 1Pet3:21 That which corresponds to this is also now saving YOU, namely, baptism, (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the request made to God for a good conscience,) through the resurrection of Jesus Christ
Â Â Jn6:45 It is written in the Prophets, â€˜And they will all be taught by Jehovah.â€™ Everyone that has heard from the Father (called) and has learned comes to me.
Â Â 1Tim2: 4 whose will is that all sorts of men should be saved and come to an accurate knowledge of truth. 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus.
Â Â .Jn6: 54 He that feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has everlasting life, and I shall resurrect him at the last day;
55 for my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. 56 He that feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood remains in union with me, and I in union with him.
57 Just as the living Father sent me forth and I live because of the Father, he also that feeds on me, even that one will live because of me.
58 This is the bread that came down from heaven. It is not as when YOUR forefathers ate and yet died. He that feeds on this bread will live forever.â€
59 These things he said as he was teaching in public assembly at Caâ€¢perÂ´naâ€¢um
Â Â .Jn6: 40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone that beholds the Son and exercises faith in him should have everlasting life, and I will resurrect him at the last day.â€
Jn6:47 Most truly I say to YOU, He that believes has everlasting life.
John 17: 3 This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledgeâ€¦.or, â€œhaving knowledgeâ€Jer. 31:31 â€œLook! There are days coming,â€ is the utterance of Jehovah, â€œand I will conclude with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah a new covenant;
32 not one like the covenant that I concluded with their forefathers in the day of my taking hold of their hand to bring them forth out of the land of Egypt, â€˜which covenant of mine they themselves broke, although I myself had husbandly ownership of them,â€™ is the utterance of Jehovah.â€
Â Â Â Â 33 â€œFor this is the covenant that I shall conclude with the house of Israel after those days,â€ is the utterance of Jehovah. â€œI will put my law within them, and in their heart I shall write it. And I will become their God, and they themselves will become my people.â€
*Was Judas present when Jesus inaugurated the NC and passed the bread and wine?
LK. 22:19 Also, he took a loaf, gave thanks, broke it, and gave it to them, saying: â€œThis means my body which is to be given in YOUR behalf. Keep doing this in remembrance of me.â€ 20 Also, the cup in the same way after they had the evening meal, he saying: â€œThis cup means the new covenant by virtue of my blood, which is to be poured out in YOUR behalf.
21 â€œBut, look! the hand of my betrayer is with me at the table.
*How numerous are the peopleÂ Â in the NC?
Gen17:3 At this AÂ´bram fell upon his face, and God continued to speak with him, saying: 4 â€œAs for me, look! my covenant is with you, and you will certainly become a father of a crowd of nations.
Heb9:6 For not all who [spring] from Israel are really â€œIsrael.â€ 7 Neither because they are Abrahamâ€™s seed are they all children, but: â€œWhat will be called â€˜your seedâ€™ will be through Isaac.â€ 8 That is, the children in the flesh are not really the children of God, but the children by the promise are counted as the seed.Heb8:6-11 â€œâ€˜Look! There are days coming,â€™ says Jehovah, â€˜and I will conclude with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah a new covenant; 9 not according to the covenant that I made with their forefathers in [the] day of my taking hold of their hand to bring them forth out of the land of Egypt, because they did not continue in my covenant, so that I stopped caring for them,â€™ says Jehovah.â€
10 â€œâ€˜For this is the covenant that I shall covenant with the house of Israel after those days,â€™ says Jehovah. â€˜I will put my laws in their mind, and in their hearts I shall write them. And I will become their God, and they themselves will become my people.
11 â€œâ€˜And they will by no means teach each one his fellow citizen and each one his brother, saying: â€œKnow Jehovah!â€ For they will all know me, from [the] least one to [the] greatest one of them.
*How do the following scriptures show that the number in the N C are more numerous then those in the Old Law Covenant to Moses?
Â Â Gen. 26: 3 â€¦and I will carry out the sworn statement that I swore to Abraham your father, 4 â€˜And I will multiply your seed like the stars of the heavens
Â Â Math. 20: 28 Just as the Son of man came, not to be ministered to, but to minister and to give his soul a ransom in exchange for many.â€
Gla.4:22â€¦. it is written that Abraham acquired two sons, one by the servant girl and one by the free woman; 23 but the one by the servant girl was actually born in the manner of flesh, the other by the free woman through a promise. 24 These things stand as a symbolic drama; for these [women] mean two covenants, the one from Mount SiÂ´nai, which brings forth children for slavery, and which is HaÂ´gar. 25 Now this HaÂ´gar means SiÂ´nai, a mountain in Arabia, and she corresponds with the Jerusalem today, for she is in slavery with her children. 26 But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother.
27 For it is written: â€œBe glad, you barren woman (Sarah) who does not give birth; break out and cry aloud, you woman who does not have childbirth pains; for the children of the desolate woman (Sarah) are more numerous than [those] of her (Hagar) who has the husband.â€ 28 Now we, brothers, are children belonging to the promise the same as Isaac was.
*What is the Kingdom Covenant Jesus also inauguratesÂ Â in Luke Ch 22, that has no mediator?
28 â€œHowever, YOU are the ones that have stuck with me in my trials; 29 and I make a covenant with YOU, just as my Father has made a covenant with me, for a kingdom, 30 that YOU may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones to judge the twelve tribes of Israel.
* How many are in the Kingdom Covenant?
W T comments, gt, pg, 115 states,
â€œDespite their imperfections, the apostles have stuck with Jesus during his trials. So he says: â€œI make a covenant with you, just as my Father has made a covenant with me, for a kingdom.â€ This personal covenant between Jesus and his loyal followers joins them to him to share his royal dominion. Only a limited number of 144,000 are finally taken into this covenant for a Kingdom.â€
*Are thereÂ Â 2Â Â covenants in Luke ch.22, or 1?
Â Â Rom. 9: 4 who, as such, are Israelites, to whom belong the adoption as sons and the glory and the covenants and the giving of the Law and the sacred service and the promises;
*What will be the purpose of the Kingdom Covenant?
Lk. 22;30 that YOU may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones to judge the twelve tribes of Israel.
Rev.20:6, . 6 Happy and holy is anyone having part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no authority, but they will be priests of God and of the Christ, and will rule as kings with him for the thousand years.
*Was Judas present when Jesus spoke of the KC ?
No, he was dismissed by this time.
*Where do these kings and priests come from?
Rev. 7:4 And I heard the number of those who were sealed, a hundred and forty-four thousand, sealed out of every tribe of the sons of Israel: Abrahamâ€™s seed (12K from each)29 Moreover, if YOU belong to Christ, YOU are really Abrahamâ€™s seed, heirs with reference to a promise.
*Who are the Sons of Israel?
Ro. 2: 29 But he is a Jew who is one on the inside, and [his] circumcision is that of the heart by spirit, and not by a written code.
Gla. 6:15 For neither is circumcision anything nor is uncircumcision, but a new creation [is something]. 16 And all those who will walk orderly by this rule of conduct, upon them be peace and mercy, even upon the Israel of God. .
Rom, 8:14 For all who are led by Godâ€™s spirit, these are Godâ€™s sons. 15 For YOU did not receive a spirit of slavery causing fear again, but YOU received a spirit of adoption as sons, by which spirit we cry out: â€œAbba, Father!â€ 16 The spirit itself bears witness with our spirit that we are Godâ€™s children. 17 If, then, we are children, we are also heirs: heirs indeed of God, but joint heirs with Christ, provided we suffer together that we may also be glorified together.
Gla.,4: 4 But when the full limit of the time arrived, God sent forth his Son, who came to be out of a woman and who came to be under law, 5 that he might release by purchase those under law, that we, in turn, might receive the adoption as sons.
6 Now because YOU are sons, God has sent forth the spirit of his Son into our hearts and it cries out: â€œAbba, Father!â€
*When will those in the Kingdom CovenantÂ Â be sealed (chosen) out of the sons andÂ Â be anointed as Kings, , members of the Heavenly little flock?
Â Â Math.24:29 â€œImmediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 And then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in lamentation, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send forth his angels with a great trumpet sound, and they will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from one extremity of the heavens to their other extremity.Â Â (1 Thes. 4:16 describes this)
Â Â 1Thes. 4: 16 because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangelâ€™s voice and with Godâ€™s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first.Â Â Rev 11:15 â€“ The seventh angel blew his trumpet. And loud voices occurred in heaven, saying: 'The kingdom of the world did become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will rule as king forever and ever.'
Rev 20:6 â€“ "Happy and holy is anyone having part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no authority, but they will be priests of God and of the Christ, and will rule as kings with him for the thousand years."
Rev. 7: 2 And I saw another angel ascending from the sun rising, having a seal of [the] living God; and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was granted to harm the earth and the sea, 3 saying: â€œDo not harm the earth or the sea or the trees, until after we have sealed the slaves of our God in their foreheads.â€4 And I heard the number of those who were sealed, a hundred and forty-four thousand,
*Can anyoneÂ Â at this time, claim to be a sealed member of the 144,000, little flock ?
1Cor. 15: We shall not all fall asleep [in death], but we shall all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, during the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised up incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
Phip. 3: 12 Not that I have already received it or am already made perfect, but I am pursuing to see if I may also lay hold on that for which I have also been laid hold on by Christ Jesus. 13 Brothers, I do not yet consider myself as having laid hold on [it]; but there is one thing about it: Forgetting the things behind and stretching forward to the things ahead,
14 I am pursuing down toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God by means of Christ Jesus.
Â Â Gla.4: 5 that he might release by purchase those under law, that we, in turn, might receive the adoption as sonsâ€¦
Watchtower comment on Gla. 4:5:
It 1 pg. 54;â€¦â€¦ . Through purchase by means of Christ Jesus, they receive the adoption as sons and also become heirs with Christ, the only-begotten Son of God. (Ga 4:1-7; Ro 8:14-17) They do not come by such son ship naturally but by Godâ€™s choice and according to his will. (Eph 1:5) While acknowledged as Godâ€™s children, or sons, from the time of Godâ€™s begetting them by his spirit (1Jo 3:1; Joh 1:12, 13), their full realization of this privilege as spirit sons of God is dependent on their ultimate faithfulness. (Ro 8:17; Re 21:7) Thus, Paul speaks of them as â€œearnestly waiting for adoption as sons, the release from our bodies by ransom.â€â€”Ro 8:23.
Ro. 8: . 14 For all who are led by Godâ€™s spirit, these are Godâ€™s sons.
Math. 22: 14 â€œFor there are many invited, but few chosen
* In 1 Thes. 4:17, did Paul mean that the future â€œadoption as spirit sonsâ€ of these onesÂ Â would be a single event in time?
Â Â 1 thes. 4â€\:14 For if our faith is that Jesus died and rose again, so, too, those who have fallen asleep [in death] through Jesus God will bring with him. 15 For this is what we tell YOU by Jehovahâ€™s word, that we the living who survive to the presence of the Lord shall in no way precede (be resurrected before) those who have fallen asleep [in death]; 16 because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangelâ€™s voice and with Godâ€™s
trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first. 17 Afterward we the living who are surviving will, together with them, and at the same time, be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and thus we shall always be with [the] Lord. â€¦.NWT Ref. Bi. Footnote
Â Â 1 Corinthians 15:52 â€“ in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, during the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound and the dead will be raised up incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
Â Â Rev.7: 3 saying: â€œDo not harm the earth or the sea or the trees, until after we have sealed the slaves of our God in their foreheads.â€
*In what sense can Christians be anointed, if the sealing is yet future?
Youngs concordance on â€œanointedâ€; In Hebrew, there are 4 different words for theÂ Â word "anoint", also in Greek there are four words. Also in Hebrew, there are two words for "anointed" and three words for "anointing". In all cases "anoint" means a pouring out or rubbing on of something, usually oil. Sometimes this is for practical purposes, and more importantly for the ceremonial purpose of inaugurating a king, priest or a prophet. WT comments on these two meanings of anointing:
...it 1 113.
"The Bible often uses the Hebrew sukh and the Greek aâ€¢leiÂ´pho for the commonplace greasing, or rubbing on of oil. (Da 10:3; Ru 3:3; Joh 11:2) But for a special anointing with oil, it generally uses the Hebrew word maâ€¢shachÂ´, from which the word maâ€¢shiÂ´ach (Messiah) comes, and the Greek word khriÂ´o, from which comes khriâ€¢stosÂ´ (Christ). (Ex 30:30; Le 4:5, ftn; Lu 4:18; Ac 4:26) This distinction is maintained quite consistently both in the Hebrew and in the Greek. Some versions of the Bible do not maintain this fine distinction but translate all such words by the one term â€œanoint.â€
In this discussion, we are interested with the meaning of anointing with Holy Spirit, "spirit anointed", as it applies to the little flock.
In the Greek scriptures, the pouring out of HS has two applications, as with the case of oil anointing.
In one sense, people can be "spirit anointed" to positions of authority, as kings and priests.
In a second sense, HS can be poured out (an anointing) on people for the purpose of giving them special power.Â Â Acts 1:8 but YOU will receive power when the holy spirit arrives upon YOU,
Â Â Acts 2:, 17 â€˜â€œAnd in the last days,â€ God says, â€œI shall pour out some of my spirit upon every sort of flesh, and YOUR sons and YOUR daughters will prophesy and YOUR young men will see visions and YOUR old men will dream dreams;
Â Â Acts 10: 45 And the faithful ones that had come with Peter who were of those circumcised were amazed, because the free gift of the holy spirit was being poured out also upon people of the nations. 46 For they heard them speaking with tongues and magnifying God. Then Peter responded: 47 â€œCan anyone forbid water so that these might not be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit even as we have?â€
WT comments on this type of pouring out of HS:
"92 WT 2/1 20, what a powerful force this spirit is! But how can Christians today avail themselves of it? First, Jesus said we should ask for it, so why not do just that? Pray to Jehovah to give you this wonderful gift not only in times of stress but on every occasion. In addition, read the Bible so that Holy Spirit can speak to you.
Wt 06 11/15 pg. 22, ..Pray for Holy Spirit, allow it to lead you.
*Was Jesusâ€™ anointing for this purpose, or was he anointed as a king and priest?
Â Â Heb. 1: 8 But with reference to the Son: â€œGod is your throne forever and ever, and [the] scepter of your kingdom is the scepter of uprightness. 9 You loved righteousness, and you hated lawlessness. That is why God, your God, anointed you with [the] oil of exultation more than your partners
Â Â it-1 pg 114; (concerning Jesus anointing)â€¦ Fulfilling many prophecies in the Hebrew Scriptures, Jesus of Nazareth proved to be the Anointed One of Jehovah and could properly be called Messiah, or Christ, which titles convey that thought. (Mt 1:16; Heb 1:8, 9) Instead of being anointed with literal oil, he was anointed with Jehovahâ€™s spirit. (Mt 3:16) This was Jehovahâ€™s appointment of him as King, Prophet, and High Priest, and so he was referred to as Jehovahâ€™s Anointed. (Ps 2:2; Ac 3:20-26; 4:26, 27; Heb 5:5, 6) In his hometown of Nazareth, Jesus acknowledged this anointing when he applied to himself the prophecy of Isaiah 61:1, where the phrase appears: â€œJehovah has anointed me.â€ (Lu 4:18) Jesus Christ is the only one in the Scriptures who holds an anointing to all three offices: prophet, high priest, and king. Jesus was anointed with â€œthe oil of exultation more than [his] partnersâ€ (the other kings of the line of David). This was by reason of his receiving the anointing directly from Jehovah himself, not with oil but with holy spirit, not to an earthly kingship but to a heavenly one combined with the office of heavenly High Priest.â€”Heb 1:9;
*At what point in time , do the 144000 become spirit anointed to be Kings and priests?
Â Â 1 Cor. 15: 50 However, this I say, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit Godâ€™s kingdom, neither does corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Look! I tell YOU a sacred secret: We shall not all fall asleep [in death], but we shall all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, during the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised up Incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this which is corruptible must put on incorruption, and this which is mortal must put on immortality.
*When is the last trumpet?
Rev. 11:14 The second woe is past. Look! The third woe is coming quickly.15 And the seventh angel blew his trumpet. And loud voices occurred in heaven, saying: â€œThe kingdom of the world did become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will rule as king forever and ever.â€
Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Amen
Henry Ward Beecher-1872 Preacher of Plymouth Church, Brooklyn, in his home later bought by C.H. Russell.
He is looking at the Brooklyn Bridge,,,, is it the way into, or, out of Brooklyn for you?