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Cannabis - gift from God or weed from hell?

After receiving a "Shame on you!" from one individual and a PM with the "millstone" scripture in bold from another person over the fact that I said....

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For what it's worth, Cannabis is protective of the brain and has experimentally been administered immediately after a stroke and, like I said, it protects brain cells from being damaged. However....it's still illegal in most states. If you are interested, check with compassion clubs. I don't know what they're called in the US. There are many here in Canada.

BTW...it's also a cure for migraine!

Love, Rez


....I thought it would be good to open up a discussion on cannabis here in the controversy room.

As you can see from my quote there is nothing that would suggest that I recommended "smoking reefers" or "getting high". What I was referring to was the medical use of cannabis in protecting the brain cells immediately after a stroke.

It appears that some have not taken the trouble to inform themselves.

"When anyone is replying to a matter before he hears [it], that is foolishness on his part and a humiliation." -- Proverbs 18:1

I will keep this first post very short to allow others to read up and reply before adding additional info. Here are two links to start off with. The first one has already been posted by SW on another thread. It's called "Run From the Cure -- the Rick Simpson Story" and is about the medical use of Hemp oil (not to be confused with Hemp seed oil). I'll copy it here:

Run from the cure link

Another informative link is found at:

The Real Reason Hemp is Illegal link

This last link is mainly about the industrial history of Hemp. For instance, did you know that Henry Ford's first Model-T was built to run on hemp gasoline and the CAR ITSELF WAS CONTRUCTED FROM HEMP! On his large estate, Ford was photographed among his hemp fields. The car, 'grown from the soil,' had hemp plastic panels whose impact strength was 10 times stronger than steel; Popular Mechanics, 1941.

I'll leave you with that for now and await your comments.

Love, Rez:giverose:


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11-01-2008 12:45 PM
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Hi Rez

My comments were meant to be a joke, but perhaps not well thought out. I was just trying to be honest and express my feelings that I DID enjoy it and I DO miss it. But then there are a lot of things that fall into that category.

The PM's you received are unfortunate. I did not get the impression that you were smoking pot and advocating it.

As for whether it should be legal or not, I compare it to alcohol....I've never seen anyone get stoned and get into a brawl. It's not known to cause kidney and liver failure, or to be physically addictive like alcohol. I believe that addictions to marijuana are mostly mental and emotional....

Anything that God gave us for our benefit can be either used or abused. It's up to each of us individually to decide where to draw the line, based on a trained conscience. Personally, I doubt that God would cast people into Gehenna just for getting high. But the best way to make decisions like that is really simple....

WWJD?

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11-01-2008 01:48 PM
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Rez,

Actually your orginal post was not clear in what you were suggesting. As many choose to administer the canabis in different forms which may lead one to having a "high".

I am glad you have returned to the discussion to clarify what you are refering too. So that all reading the information posted understand what you are suggesting.

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11-01-2008 01:51 PM
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My comments were meant to be a joke, but perhaps not well thought out. I was just trying to be honest and express my feelings that I DID enjoy it and I DO miss it. But then there are a lot of things that fall into that category.


:D Actually, Jesh, I took your comments as "funnin' around" and not too seriously.:thumbsup: BTW, I did some "weed" recreationally back in the 60's and enjoyed getting the giggles and munchies with a few friends. Unfortunately I added it to a pre-existing tobacco habit and my poor lungs no doubt suffered as a result.

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As for whether it should be legal or not, I compare it to alcohol....I've never seen anyone get stoned and get into a brawl. It's not known to cause kidney and liver failure, or to be physically addictive like alcohol. I believe that addictions to marijuana are mostly mental and emotional....


Tobacco and alcohol can be extremely addictive physically, unlike cannabis. The claim that cannabis is mentally and/or emotionally addictive is subjective, I believe, and may depend on the reason for which it is used. ...sorta like taking medication for pain....you can become addicted to being pain-free!:thumbup:

So, for those who are depressed or anxious, having their mood elevated may be a state they wish to return to again and again. Is this an addiction or simply a desire to feel more normal....happier? How would this be different from the many drugs that induce similar states and with side effects that are not so nice. Not so with cannabis! But more on this latter. I'll share some recent experience when I've a little more time.

Love, Rez :giverose:

PS...I donno, Jesh, if your WWJD formula would work in this case. Jesus never got sick.


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11-01-2008 03:31 PM
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Rez,

Actually your orginal post was not clear in what you were suggesting. As many choose to administer the canabis in different forms which may lead one to having a "high".

I am glad you have returned to the discussion to clarify what you are refering too. So that all reading the information posted understand what you are suggesting.

Peace to all
Lynn


Here is the exact quote again.

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For what it's worth, Cannabis is protective of the brain and has experimentally been administered immediately after a stroke and, like I said, it protects brain cells from being damaged. However....it's still illegal in most states. If you are interested, check with compassion clubs. I don't know what they're called in the US. There are many here in Canada.

BTW...it's also a cure for migraine!

Love, Rez


I chose my words carefully so as not to give the impression that I was advocating "smoking". That is why the word administered was used. Someone who has just suffered a stroke would unlikely be handed a joint. And the study that I was referencing used the word "administered" as well. They didn't specify.

I think the problem with misunderstandings is that often the person hearing or reading gets a mental picture based on their knowledge up to that point and reacts to it. So, when folks hear the word "cannabis", what comes to mind is smoking weed. For most of us, the mediical use of this plant is quite new. Well....it is for me at any rate.:blush:

Love and peace to you, Lynn!

Rez:giverose:

PS...As to the "high"....as one person quipped: "Heaven forbid that a terminally ill cancer patient should be allowed to be "happy"!:readthis:..:P


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PS...As to the "high"....as one person quipped: "Heaven forbid that a terminally ill cancer patient should be allowed to be "happy"!..


cute reply. :) I am sure that you are aware that was not the meaning of my words.

May we keep all such ones in prayer and supplicate to the one who has the power to grant their relief, our Father.

I can see this topic is one that has very strong emotions attached to it, and a position you feel strongly in explaining to people. Therefore I leave you to your task.

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cute reply. :) I am sure that you are aware that was not the meaning of my words.


Thanks!:D I've been dying to fit that quote in somewhere. I'll take your word that you didn't mean that.:hug:

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I can see this topic is one that has very strong emotions attached to it, and a position you feel strongly in explaining to people.



That's why it's here in the controversy room dearie.:giverose:


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Resolute Wrote:

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cute reply. :) I am sure that you are aware that was not the meaning of my words.


Thanks!:D I've been dying to fit that quote in somewhere. I'll take your word that you didn't mean that.:hug:

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I can see this topic is one that has very strong emotions attached to it, and a position you feel strongly in explaining to people.



That's why it's here in the controversy room dearie.:giverose:


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I read every day the wonderful and powerful discussions on this site and do not participate very much. This particular subject I am very biased in my reasons for believing in this medicine.

My husband died last year and I cared for him in hospice care at home. I got him signed up for medicinal marijuana. It is legal in California. The doctor and nurses were very much in his corner on this. He was able to eat and very much wanted to live. He was on hospice care for six months. He was on morphine but many times that did not help him through the day. I never saw him as a person who was bothered by demons or not caring about his relationship with Jehovah God or Christ Jesus. I am so grateful for this medicine because many times I would not have known how to help him.

Personally I have never tried any marijuana and I absolutely view it as a medicine as much as the morphine and antidepressants and other drugs administered to him. I know others who would not be able to function without this medicine because of back injuries, colitis and MS. I certainly agree it is misused but so are many other meds.

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Hi Patty, :love:
What a terribly sad experience for you and your husband. :( You have reminded me of how little we know sometimes of the things our friends here are going through. I had no clue you and your husband were going through such hard times. I thank you for your thoughts as I think it is getting right to the heart of what this discussion is all about. I think most of us hear the word 'marijuana' and instantly think of recreational use--and abuse--and either forget or are unaware that there is a purpose for it that it might take experience and or education to understand--for instance I always thought the main purpose of marijuana was to be an insect repellant--I am not sure if that is true or not but I read it somewhere--and even if it is true that certainly is diminished in the face of your powerful words :cheekkiss:

Much love to you today Patty--and everyday :heartbeat::heartbeat:
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I think most of us hear the word 'marijuana' and instantly think of recreational use--and abuse--and either forget or are unaware that there is a purpose for it that it might take experience and or education to understand

This is a revealing statement. The more I read on what we condemn as a society, the more I realize that the structure of an argument is more profound than the argument itself.

Take all the "natural" drugs out there. Opium for one was central to the Opium wars between China and Britain. When we read history and the opium dens that "robbed humans of their natural instinct and industry" one is led to believe all opiates are evil. Mental pictures mean everything. Think Heroin. Then think Morphine. Both are derivatives of opium. Why are they different? Why is one legal and the other is not? Because of what we are told by those who legislate it so. Don't get me wrong. I don't advocate recreational use of drugs. But I also don't advocate a society that forces a false belief.

Remember when you bought into the FDS being God's channel of truth? If we read any literature to the contrary, were we not considered apostate? Same reasoning. A hierarchy has told and thus we believe. Heroin is an abused drug because it is illegal. If alcohol became illegal again, would it not be the same?

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Unfortunately, too many people read the word "cannabis" and automatically think someone is smoking a marijuana cigarette.

This is not necessarily the case. Medical marijuana, a.k.a. Cannabinol, is in pill form. At least in my area. And it is in controlled doses, so the patient isn't necessarily getting "high" either.

I knew an HIV patient. Part of his medicinal regimen included Cannabinol, the pill form of Cannabis. His HIV drugs ruined his appetite and caused nausea and other side effects. The Cannabinol relieved a lot of his side effects so he could get through the day more like a normal person. It didn't make him high, it didn't alter his perceptions. It simply helped him live with a better quality of life.

Remember, God gave us all plants to use. Just because certain people abuse certain plants doesn't mean those plants are actually evil in themselves. It is the abuse that is evil, not the plant itself.

Let's not hate the thing God gave us, instead let us hate the sinfulness that causes us to misuse it.


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11-03-2008 02:35 AM
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'Is it a crime to want to be well?'
For six years, Mark and Lezley Gibson supplied cannabis to sufferers of multiple sclerosis. The police knew what they were doing - but turned a blind eye. Now, however, the 'Canna-Biz Two' have been convicted of dealing. They talk to Patrick Barkham

* Patrick Barkham
* The Guardian,
* Tuesday December 19 2006
* Article history

Behind the purple door on the cobbled streets of Alston, Cumbria, the cooking pot was seldom off the boil. In the ordinary kitchen tucked high in the North Pennines, thick brown liquid was poured into moulds imported from Belgian chocolatiers. Luxurious bars of high-cocoa-fat chocolate were wrapped and labelled and placed in jiffy bags, then posted to all corners of the country.

It would have been an uncomplicated and charming cottage industry, but for one special ingredient: each 150g bar contained up to 3.5g of cannabis. For six years, its presence in the chocolate helped ease pain for more than 1,600 people with multiple sclerosis, almost 2% of all British sufferers. It also caused the chocolate's distributors, Mark and Lezley Gibson, to fall victim to village gossip, police raids and legal action that has left them branded as drug dealers.

On Friday, a jury found the Gibsons, and an associate, Marcus Davies, guilty of two counts of conspiracy to supply cannabis between 2004 and 2005. There were tears and gasps of shock in the public gallery at Carlisle crown court when the decision was delivered. For Lezley, who suffers from MS, the decision at least ended the mental and physical agony of a prosecution that has dragged on for nearly two years. But the reverberations of the decision reach far beyond the Gibsons' kitchen in Alston. The verdict is discomforting for those who assumed this country had, in effect, decriminalised cannabis. And it is painful for those MS sufferers who have suddenly found their supply of cannabis chocolate cut off.

The Gibsons' journey to Carlisle crown court began back in the mid-80s. Lezley was a trainee hairdresser, good enough to beat the likes of Andrew Collinge and Nicky Clarke in apprenticeship competitions. While the men went on to become celebrity coiffeurs, however, the worsening pins and needles in Lezley's legs took her to hospital in Carlisle, where she was diagnosed with MS. Treated for 10 weeks, she had two agonising lumbar punctures and was given steroids, which caused her to grow a beard and double her weight to more than 14 stone. The final piece of "medical" advice before she was discharged was, she says, to forgo butter and eat margarine instead. "I was called in-valid," she recalls, emphasising the word. "I was disabled. I was written off, no longer any use to anyone. When I was diagnosed, they said I would be incontinent and in a wheelchair within five years."

Twenty-two years on, Lezley is a slight, attractive woman with a warm smile, and no wheelchair. For three years after her diagnosis, however, she suffered paralysis of her right and left sides and periodically lost the power of speech and sight in her right eye. "This was the normal downward spiral of MS. Then I met Mark and started using cannabis," she says. Like many young men, Mark was a recreational user. Lezley noticed that when she smoked it with him, she felt better.

"I read Charles Kingsley's The Water Babies when I was young and I've always been Mrs Doasyouwouldbedoneby," she says. "Once I found out that cannabis did this to me, I couldn't keep it quiet. I wanted to help other people." The former MP Robert Kilroy-Silk inadvertently assisted Lezley when she appeared on his show to talk about MS in the mid-90s. There she met other MS sufferers and was inspired to found a support group, Therapeutic Help from Cannabis (THC). Fortified by a growing body of scientific evidence about the medicinal effects of cannabis on MS, Mark got involved and travelled to universities to talk at conferences about the drug.

It was when the Gibsons began talking publicly about cannabis that the police took an interest. The couple were first raided in 1989: Mark spent a week on remand in Durham prison. They were busted again in 1995 and again in 1999. In 2000, Lezley was acquitted of possession on the grounds of medical "necessity".

A friend and fellow MS sufferer, Biz Ivol, began producing "Cannachoc" for a neighbour with MS. She, too, was arrested and prosecuted. When her illness was exacerbated by legal action, the Gibsons offered to take over the production of the chocolate in 2000. When Ivol died in 2004, they named it "Canna-Biz", in her honour. Qualified in food hygiene, Mark began making the chocolate for about half a dozen MS sufferers in the kitchen above his gift shop in Alston, where he sells new age crystals and ethnic ornaments.

"It felt good to be of some use, to help society. It was terrible to be told you're no use at 20," says Lezley. As word spread, people wrote letters addressed to "The lady with MS, Alston" or turned up at their door in wheelchairs. Those who found cannabis helped reduce muscle spasm and increased bladder control were relieved to find an alternative to giving £150 a week to a drug dealer. Soon the couple were posting bars to more than 100 people a week.

As long as he didn't sell it, and only gave it to MS sufferers, Mark believed he had a defence in law. If prosecuted, he thought he could deploy the defence of "necessity", which allowed for an illegal act to avert greater harm (or, in this case, pain). A number of people, including founders of medical marijuana cooperatives and even a GP, Dr Anne Biezanek, who supplied her sick daughter, have been acquitted of possession and supply using this medical "necessity" argument.

Gibson was meticulous about how he produced and supplied Canna-Biz. He obtained the cannabis for free from altruistic growers and bought the chocolate (ideally, organic Green & Black's; otherwise Tesco's or Morrisons' own brands). Lezley helped with the administration and they instructed users to take no more than three squares from the 24-square bar each day to ensure no psychoactive effects. They never distributed it through their shop. Crucially, they never sold it, instead suggesting a donation of between £1.50 and £5 to cover their costs (some MS patients would give more; many chose never to pay anything). And they insisted that any "patient" must send them a doctor's letter, on headed notepaper, confirming they had MS. Lezley says the notes showed that almost all their patients were over 40: "It's not people looking for a cheap thrill; it's middle-aged people who are ill."

Curtains began to twitch as Mark strolled across the street to Alston post office every day with jiffy bags of cannabis chocolate. Small-town gossips reckoned the 4x4-driving couple must be raking it in. Mark was summoned to meet a senior Cumbria police officer in 2002. He was warned: open a cannabis cafe and you'll be shut down. But police advice about their chocolate operation was more ambiguous. Mark told the court it was suggested he should not be "quite so blatant" about it. "He didn't tell me to stop," says Gibson. "To this very day nobody has told us to stop."

Nevertheless, heeding police warnings, the couple reduced their media profile and began using a regional post office instead of their local one. Davies, an associate from Cambridgeshire, built a website for their new not-for-profit scheme, Therapeutic Help from Cannabis for Multiple Sclerosis (THC4MS). He also provided them with a PO box address in Huntingdon; it meant the couple's home address was no longer publicised. When their local bank refused to let them open an account for THC4MS, Davies, who is registered disabled and grew his own cannabis to treat his severe diabetes and epilepsy, agreed to cash donor cheques for the Gibsons.

Internal police documents read out in court showed that Cumbria police decided it would be "oppressive and vindictive" to mount a surveillance operation on the couple after Lezley was acquitted in 2000. Early one morning in February last year, however, the police knocked on the Gibsons' purple door. Bars of Canna-Biz had spilled out of a jiffy bag at the Post Office and the police were called. Along with Davies, they were charged with conspiracy to supply cannabis.

Legal arguments dragged on for nearly two years - destroying Gibson's gift shop business - before their case finally opened in court two weeks ago. Jeremy Grout-Smith, for the prosecution, argued that while the couple were not conventional drug dealers, there was no defence in law. "To supply cannabis, even if you believe it is doing good, is not a defence," he said. Police found details of three bank accounts at Davies' home into which more than £39,000 worth of cheques had been paid between March 2003 and March 2005. "So this seems to be distribution on quite a large scale and, to some extent at least, the defendants may have benefited financially - although the Crown does not claim this was their main motivation," he said.

The Gibsons and Davies claimed that most of the sum was the income from other members of Davies' family. Even if some was money from donations, they said it was all ploughed back into the not-for-profit Canna-Biz operation. In six years they have supplied more than 33,000 bars and calculate they have given away cannabis with a street value of £500,000. The pair are not visibly wealthy. "We're not very good 'drug dealers', are we?" says Lezley. "If I'd sold it, I wouldn't be sitting here. I'd be in Spain with the rest of 'em."

As the arguments were trotted out during nine days in court, little indignities struck home. On one morning proceedings were delayed because the prosecution barrister had a medical complaint. Lezley, who struggled to walk into court and found it painful to sit down for more than 10 minutes, was on time every day. She believes her previous court battle advanced her MS by five years. "At the moment I don't know if I'm able to move when I wake up," she said two days before the verdict. "I'm not sleeping, I'm constantly in pain across my shoulders. I'm not taking as much cannabis as I should because I'm stuck in court."

The couple struggled to retain their composure when faced with legal professionals who required correcting on several basic facts about medicinal cannabis and the law. When Grout-Smith asserted that no one had been acquitted of supplying cannabis on grounds of medical necessity, he was put right by Mark. The judge struggled to understand how a commercial medical cannabis treatment for MS users in Britain, called Sativex, could be unlicensed yet still be legal in the UK. Mark, again, was on hand to explain: in a government fudge, it was denied a licence in Britain but for the past 12 months has been made available on a "named patient" prescription basis. A doctor must get a licence from the Home Office to prescribe it to individuals. A survey by Disability Now found few patients have been able to get it because the process is so bureaucratic and expensive. Lezley is now licensed to carry a Sativex spray but finds smoking cannabis better. The spray is "very, very strong" and, she says, more likely to incapacitate her than smoking.

The Gibsons are not the sort of campaigners who crave courtroom publicity. But their case made public some interesting facts. The couple kept 1,036 letters from doctors confirming patients had MS. Of those, 65 made specific reference to cannabis chocolate, showing that some doctors had full knowledge of what they were writing the letter for. One MS sufferer, Helen Wallace, gave evidence from her wheelchair in court that she had told her doctor precisely why she needed the note. In this way, many of the letters from the medical profession were de facto prescriptions.

Despite such support, the political climate has shifted. The government is determined not to be seen as "soft" on the drug since it was downgraded from class B to C. (Paradoxically, downgrading cannabis has damaged the Gibsons because recreational users who once donated money or campaigned for their medical cause have dropped away, content that they can smoke a spliff in peace.) As well as a growing body of research showing its medicinal applications, there is, equally, more scientific evidence linking cannabis to mental illnesses such as psychosis and schizophrenia. The studies agree on one thing: cannabis affects different people in different ways.

Three months after the Gibsons were arrested, legal opinion also turned against them. While several cannabis suppliers successfully evoked the defence of medical "necessity", the court of appeal ruled in May 2005 that necessity could not be a defence in six test cases of supplying cannabis. Removing this common-law defence has, in effect, recriminalised the medicinal use of cannabis. Lawrence Wood, chief executive of the Multiple Sclerosis Resource Centre charity, says the law is "an ass" and society is hypocritical to allow possession for personal use without explaining where it can be obtained safely. "If the government had licensed Sativex, and made it easily available, then these people would not have needed to supply it in this way," he says.

Since the verdict, the couple have received emails from recipients of their chocolate. "I shall miss it very much," says one woman with MS. "I have tried gradually using less each day but was in so much pain I started back on a full dose. Don't know what I shall do when this bar has finished."

Lezley is defiant. "The prosecutor told me what I did was wrong but the law is wrong. It's evil and cruel and totally unfair. As a person who is ill, why am I in court? It can't be a crime to want to be well. If it was paint stripper, I'd take it. It's just unfortunate it's illegal. I'm sorry that cannabis makes me well and I'm sorry I'm going to keep taking it, because I don't want to be in a wheelchair and I don't want to be incontinent."

The maximum penalty for the unauthorised supply of cannabis is 14 years in jail but the pair, who will be sentenced in January, have been told they will not face a prison term. They know, however, they must pour away the last Canna-Biz and pack up their pans. They have no defence in law; MS sufferers will no longer receive cannabis chocolate pain relief through the post. "I want the judge to send a letter to all those people saying why they will no longer receive our medication," says Lezley. "I can't do that".



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Patty! So good to see you again!:thumbsup: I remember you from the weekend bible group...how you used to listen in when you could but having to leave from time-to-time to care for your dear husband.

Thank you so much for your input on this topic. I just wish I had known about medical cannabis when my husband was fighting his cancer. Perhaps it could have saved his life or, at the very least, made his last days more comfortable.

I say this because a good friend was suffering last year from a virulent form of prostate cancer which was blocking his urinary output and, as a consequence his kidneys were being damaged. He was offered surgery but was not willing to part with his manhood. He had heard the "Run from the Cure--The Rick Simpson Story" and decided to travel up to where Rick lives and get some of the Hemp oil (Indica strain) that he was producing for his sick friends after curing his own prostate cancer.

To make a long story short, my friend's prostate cancer was completely gone in six weeks. As a side note his kidney damage was reversed and his hemorrhoids and varicose veins disappeared as well. He told me that taking the Hemp oil a couple of hours before bedtime enabled him to sleep through the night, something he had been unable to do due to the pain of the cancer.

Hope you are doing well, darlin'. I know you were caring for your daughter? as well...or have I misremembered that...:confused:

Much love to you, Patty!:siskiss:
Rez:giverose:

PS....Although medical cannabis is legal in California the Federal DEA can override the State law and move to seize the product anyway. More needs to be done to make it available without the fear of arrest and seizure of one's meds.


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11-08-2008 02:42 PM
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RE: Cannabis - gift from God or weed from hell?

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I think most of us hear the word 'marijuana' and instantly think of recreational use--and abuse--and either forget or are unaware that there is a purpose for it that it might take experience and or education to understand--for instance I always thought the main purpose of marijuana was to be an insect repellant--I am not sure if that is true or not but I read it somewhere


Hey Wolf-girl :cheekkiss:

As far as I can determine, the use of the word "marijuana" instead of "cannabis" was designed to be used in a campaign against the herb.

Whenever we are puzzled by the actions of folks in positions of power the old adage: "follow the money" is helpful. Big pulp and paper (Hurst) and oil/plastic (Dupont) interests are opposed to the agricultural production of the hemp plant...which doesn't have any medicinal or psychoactive properties. It is illegal to grow hemp in the USA. In at least one state it is illegal to wear jeans made of hemp (please correct me if I'm wrong about that last bit).

The only thing I've heard about the insect repellent thingy is that the nicotine in tobacco is an insecticide.

Thanks Woof!:love:


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11-08-2008 03:07 PM
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