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Whats up with the date 9 Av

WHATS UP WITH THE 9 Av

This is a list of secular events that happened on the 9th day of the Jewish month of Av to the Jews. All these are verifiable in the history books.

The Jewish Commentary, the Mishna, records that the people believed the evil report of the spies and mourned all night in fear. They turned against Moses and the two faithful spies, Joshua and Caleb (the only two from Egypt that entered the promised land). (Ta'anit 29a says it happend on the 9th of Av, Numbers 14:1-10 just records the curse from the Lord and the revolt against Moses and not the date.) This event started their 40 year wandering in the desert.

Destruction of the 1st temple, 29 July 587 BC (9 Av 3174)

Destruction of the 2nd temple, 4 Aug 70 AD (9 Av 3830)

The Roman army plowed Jerusalem with salt in 25 July 71 AD (9 Av 3831)

The destruction of Simeon Bar Cochba's army in 5 Aug 135 AD (9 Av 3895)

First Crusade declared by Pope Urban II. 10,000 Jews killed in first month of Crusade. Crusades bring death and destruction to thousands of Jews, totally obliterate many communities in Rhineland and France. 14 July 1095 (9 Av 4855)

The Martyrs of York - 500 Jews died as a result of the rich storming a castle in York England, killing them all on 14 July 1190. (9 Av 4950)

England expelled all of the Jews in 18 July 1290 AD (9 Av 5050)

Spain expelled all of the Jews in 2 August 1492 AD (9 Av 5252)

World War I is declared on the ninth of Av, 1 August 1914 (9 Av 5674)

Russia mobilized for World War I and launched persecutions against the Jews in Eastern Russia on this day too. 1 August 1914 (9 Av 5674)

On the 10th of July 1942, the Germans began a systematic liquidation of the Ghetto, deporting Jews to extermination camps at the rate of six to ten thousand per day. Deportation started on 9th Av. By the Autumn there were only 40,000 Jews left in Warsaw. By early 1943, the Jews refused to cooperate with the Germans and the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising began. Renewed attempts to start deportations were answered with reprisals. (9 Av 5702)

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RE: Whats up with the date 9 Av

Could it be that Revelation is true?

"And the dragon grew wrathful at the woman, and went off to wage war with the remaining ones of her seed, who observe the commandments of God and have the work of bearing witness to Jesus." (Rev 12:17)

Although this war commenced as early as 33AD, with Satan's attempt to kill Jesus using the Roman power in Herod's hands, I doubt Satan has lost that hatred for the "chosen people".

I know we can probably argue the above "seed" are Christian, but that war also has consequences for the Jews, who are related to the seed.

Hence the constant rubbing of 9 Av in their faces.


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Interpretum Wrote:
Could it be that Revelation is true?

"And the dragon grew wrathful at the woman, and went off to wage war with the remaining ones of her seed, who observe the commandments of God and have the work of bearing witness to Jesus." (Rev 12:17)

Although this war commenced as early as 33AD, with Satan's attempt to kill Jesus using the Roman power in Herod's hands, I doubt Satan has lost that hatred for the "chosen people".

I know we can probably argue the above "seed" are Christian, but that war also has consequences for the Jews, who are related to the seed.

Hence the constant rubbing of 9 Av in their faces.

I tend to agree with you INTPRT
All Yeshuah wanted was that people turn to his father. If Jews do it without him he will not mind that. Those who are for his father he approves of. It’s the Jewish Masons that are opposed to Yeshuah's father. Its they who don’t live up to true Judaism.

For the Jews Tisha B’Av, or the Ninth of Av [the 5th month], is a day of fasting and mourning for Jewish observers. It is a day commemorating the violent and bloody destruction of both Temples that occurred on this day and also serves as a day to remember other tragedies that have befallen the Jewish people on the Ninth of Av. The negative report by all but two spies sent by Moses to observe the Promised Land, the death of thousands of Jews due to the failure of Bar Kokhba’s revolt against the Romans in 132 CE, and the razing of the Temple site by the Romans following their siege of Jerusalem in 133 CE are all said to have occurred on this day. In addition to these, many other unfortunate events in Jerusalem’s history have occurred on Tisha B’Av.

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